Boston Marathon

[Ultimate_Runner]

Bieg z zajacami to konfortowe warunki boston biegniesz bez pacemakerow jesCze raz powtórzę na pogodę nikt nie ma wpływu a jeśli boston nie jest zaliczony do rekordów to trzeba go usunąć z world marathon majors jak by nie było to ogromny prestiż wygrać najstarszy nowozytny marathon na świecie a jeśli chodzi o odbiór rekordu myśle ze wanjiru Był by w stanie

Widać nie tak "konfortowe" jak 25km/h w plecy :D Bo zające są na każdym biegu w którym walczy się o najlepsze czasy i jakoś nikt 2:03 jeszcze nie pobiegł. Poza tym chyba najlepszy przykład Ryana Halla, w życiowej formie nie był w stanie nawet zbliżyć się do takich wyników, a tu proszę, po powrocie 2:05 łamie :D No bez jaj, przecież wszyscy wiemy o co chodzi, ten bieg to po prostu szczęśliwy zbieg okoliczności, wszystko się zgrało, taka sytuacja jednak nie lubi się powtarzać :D Drugi przykład to chociażby debiutant który lata 2:03:06 ;D Trochę szacunku do prawdziwych rekordów.

A co do Wanjiru ... hmm... nie ulega wątpliwości, że jest to najskuteczniejszy zawodnik ostatnich 2-3 lat, bo tam gdzie startuje tam wygrywa... ale czy jest w stanie biegać wyniki poniżej 2:04 ? Widzieliśmy w Londynie w 2009 roku gdzie w najwyższej formie nie wytrzymał takiego tempa i ostatecznie pobiegł powyżej 2:05 :D Myślę jednak, że jest w stanie złamać ten zawodnik 2:04 pod warunkiem, że będzie rywalizował na ostatnich 10km z innym zawodnikiem który postawi sobie taki cel, bo walczak jest z niego niesamowity :D Niech jednak tego dokona i wtedy będziemy mówić, że jest najlepszy, a nie wybiegasz chłopie w przyszłość...
Na razie 2:03:59 i basta, to jest rekord.... Jak ktoś pobiegnie szybciej na trasie która spełnia wymogi to możemy dyskutować o tym, że jest lepszy ;d

[Old Fashion Man]

RH:
"I don't care if it is considered a record," Hall told NBC Universal Sports at the end of the race. "All I know is that I am a 2:04 marathoner, and that is something I will be proud of for the rest of my career."
AS:
"We're knocking on the door," Salazar said. "Sooner or later we're going to win."

to jest myślenie Amerykanów, zrobiliśmy swoje i dokładamy kolejne klocki do naszej budowli by była jeszcze mocniejsza.

A u nas pieprzenie o zbiegach okoliczności, najlepsza wiedza o życiowej formie zawodników, kolki i brak energii, dzielenie włosa na czworo...tak już musi być, wszystko wiemy lepiej

[Buniek]

... a jeśli boston nie jest zaliczony do rekordów to trzeba go usunąć z world marathon majors jak by nie było to ogromny prestiż wygrać najstarszy nowozytny marathon na świecie ...

World marathon majors jest przedsięwzięciem komercyjnym i dlatego nie ma zanczenia czo trasa w Bostonie spełnia wymogi IAAF-u czy nie. Ważne, że są tam pieniądze.

[Ciawaraz]

Pewnie Juz wszyscy widzieli boston a jeśli nie to tu jest link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LPRZs3U ... ata_player

[Adam Klein]

Niestety nie dla Polaków.

[wysek]

Pewnie Juz wszyscy widzieli boston a jeśli nie to tu jest link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LPRZs3U ... ata_player

Cenzura...

[yacool]

To zabrzmi naiwnie:
dlaczego sport masowo propagowany jest też reglamentowany?

[Buniek]

tarcza antyrakietowa
zniesienie wiz
dostęp do relacji z boston marathon

[wojtekwydmuch]

da się obejrzeć przez youtubeproxy.org

[Ciawaraz]

Geoffrey Mutai’s time at last Monday’s Boston Marathon was indeed fast, but according to an analysis released today by the independent Association of Road Racing Statisticians (ARRS) his mark should not be viewed as excessively aided.

Writing in this week’s “Analytical Distance Runner,” the official ARRS publication, chief analyst Ken Young wrote: “It should also be noted that Geoffrey Mutai (KEN) who ran 2:03:02 (in Boston), was ranked #2 on the ARRS competitive rankings and he had been ranked #1 for four weeks earlier in the year.  When Haile Gebrselassie (ETH) set the current world record of 2:03:58.2, he was ranked #10 in the world.  Hence, it is not surprising that Mutai could be capable of significantly bettering the world record.  Too bad that he ran this on a course that is not eligible for records.”

According to the Young’s Race Time Bias (RTB) calculation, a measure of how fast athletes run based on their previous performances over all distances, the times at Boston were 1:37 fast for the men and 1:42 seconds fast for the women.  That worked out to 2.29 seconds per kilometer for the men and 2.41 seconds per kilometer for the women.  Both figures are well within the 5 seconds per kilometer value the ARRS uses to disqualify performances as excessively aided.

“The net drop is worth about 3 sec/km,” Young continued.  ”The observed times were roughly 2.4 sec/km faster than expected for the 43 elite runners making up the time comparisons.  Hence, one could conclude that the wind aid was sufficient to balance out the effect of the hills (such as they are).”

Young also pointed out that there were years at Boston where athletes ran much faster per kilometer than this year, based on what would be expected.  The fastest year for men was 1981 when times were fast by 3.8 seconds per kilometer (2:40 total), and 1988 and 1991 for the women, where times were 4.2 seconds per kilometer (2:57 total) fast.

Interestingly, Young points out that the RTB for Boston over all years for which the ARRS has kept data averages out to +0.3 seconds per kilometer, essentially the same as a flat course.  That would seem to indicate that over a long span of time the effects of the weather have canceled out (favorable and unfavorable), and the up and down nature of the course generally produces honest times, even if the course falls by 3.23 meters per kilometer, more than three times the amount allowed for setting world records.

The male and female athletes who ran the fastest based on what was expected were Ecuador’s Franklin Tenorio, whose 2:17:56 was 8:51 fast, and Colombia’s Yolanda Caballero, whose 2:26:17 was 11:01 fast.

“These RTB values for Boston are well within the range for statistically valid performances and marks from this race are included in the ARRS rankings,” Young concluded.

[Ciawaraz]

Ten post wyżej to specjalnie dla ciebie ultimate skoro twierdzisz ze mutai to taki debiutant

[Buniek]

Geoffrey Mutai’s time at last Monday’s Boston Marathon was indeed fast, but according to an analysis released today by the independent Association of Road Racing Statisticians (ARRS) his mark should not be viewed as excessively aided.

Writing in this week’s “Analytical Distance Runner,” the official ARRS publication, chief analyst Ken Young wrote: “It should also be noted that Geoffrey Mutai (KEN) who ran 2:03:02 (in Boston), was ranked #2 on the ARRS competitive rankings and he had been ranked #1 for four weeks earlier in the year.  When Haile Gebrselassie (ETH) set the current world record of 2:03:58.2, he was ranked #10 in the world.  Hence, it is not surprising that Mutai could be capable of significantly bettering the world record.  Too bad that he ran this on a course that is not eligible for records.”

According to the Young’s Race Time Bias (RTB) calculation, a measure of how fast athletes run based on their previous performances over all distances, the times at Boston were 1:37 fast for the men and 1:42 seconds fast for the women.  That worked out to 2.29 seconds per kilometer for the men and 2.41 seconds per kilometer for the women.  Both figures are well within the 5 seconds per kilometer value the ARRS uses to disqualify performances as excessively aided.

“The net drop is worth about 3 sec/km,” Young continued.  ”The observed times were roughly 2.4 sec/km faster than expected for the 43 elite runners making up the time comparisons.  Hence, one could conclude that the wind aid was sufficient to balance out the effect of the hills (such as they are).”

Young also pointed out that there were years at Boston where athletes ran much faster per kilometer than this year, based on what would be expected.  The fastest year for men was 1981 when times were fast by 3.8 seconds per kilometer (2:40 total), and 1988 and 1991 for the women, where times were 4.2 seconds per kilometer (2:57 total) fast.

Interestingly, Young points out that the RTB for Boston over all years for which the ARRS has kept data averages out to +0.3 seconds per kilometer, essentially the same as a flat course.  That would seem to indicate that over a long span of time the effects of the weather have canceled out (favorable and unfavorable), and the up and down nature of the course generally produces honest times, even if the course falls by 3.23 meters per kilometer, more than three times the amount allowed for setting world records.

The male and female athletes who ran the fastest based on what was expected were Ecuador’s Franklin Tenorio, whose 2:17:56 was 8:51 fast, and Colombia’s Yolanda Caballero, whose 2:26:17 was 11:01 fast.

“These RTB values for Boston are well within the range for statistically valid performances and marks from this race are included in the ARRS rankings,” Young concluded.

Pewnie, że Mutai żadnym debiutantem nie był. Debiutantem (pierwszy bieg maratoński w karierze) był, drugi na mecie, Moses Mosop (2:03:06) i to o nim pisał Ultimate_Runner.

[Ciawaraz]

Rzeczywiście mój błąd przepraszam:)